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Israel should stop settlements in Palestine: Haroon

Seeded on Thu Jul 30, 2009 6:25 AM EDT
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Pakistan on Monday called for Israel to stop building illegal settlement in the West Bank and East Jerusalem that were creating "serious implications" for the Middle East peace process.

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Xanthiana

Pakistan seems to have a lot of company with this call.

  • 3 votes
Reply#1 - Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:11 AM EDT
George-369262

There is no Palestine, and has not been for over 60 years. One could just as well reference the Soviet Union, or Rhodesia.

  • 1 vote
#1.1 - Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:37 AM EDT
Xanthiana

Errr the region has been called Palestine for a long time. It would be the same as arguing the South does not exist in the US.

  • 5 votes
#1.2 - Thu Jul 30, 2009 7:46 AM EDT
ralphie-311535

That doesn't mean it was an actual state because it wasn't and isn't.

  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:38 PM EDT
Xanthiana

So should we then clear the whole of Alsace, for example? Alsace never was a state but it has been claimed by the French and the Germans over and over again. So please do tell, the Alsatians have no right to the land, because it never was a state?

That is such a tired and bogus argument. People do NOT need a state to share a common culture along with values. The Palestinians have been and are native to Palestine, whether it ever was a stae or not. I am fairly certain the Kurds would agree.

  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:22 PM EDT
ANNA-NYC

So please do tell, the Alsatians have no right to the land, because it never was a state?

Right to the land has nothing to do with right to the state. Alsace still is not a state.

  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:09 PM EDT
Xanthiana

Thanks for making my point, the Palestinians may not have a state, but they have as many rights to the land as the Israelis.

  • 1 vote
#1.6 - Fri Jul 31, 2009 3:07 AM EDT
ralphie-311535

Well, maybe if they stop trying to blow up every Israeli in sight, they'll get a chance to talk about it. But not right now. First, they need to get civilized and I'm not just talking about Israel. I'm surprised that you don't get all worked up about honor killings or the indoctrination of children to kill themselves blowing up Jews. Maybe to you, these fanatics can do no wrong. Why don't you try living there? Sounds like an idylic existence. Just don't talk to the "wrong" people.

  • 1 vote
#1.7 - Fri Jul 31, 2009 4:29 PM EDT
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Xanthiana

ralphie,

your post sounds something like:

The USA went unprovoked to Iraq, thus all Americans are babykillers and want to harm anyone in the Middle East.

You are using this kind of generalization to score a cheap point. As I have pointed out many times, I am not a fan of Hamas, Hamas is just as guilty as the Israeli government. However, I believe it is wrong to evict people of their property in order to increase the size of state and the area of influence. This is exactly what Israel is currently doing by increasing the number and size of its settlements. What exactly do you expect the Palestinians to do, say thank you for the way they have been treated for the past 60 years?

  • 1 vote
#1.9 - Fri Jul 31, 2009 5:20 PM EDT
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Hello my fellow Muslim and German terrorists. I am your enemy from Israel. Just wanted to say hi. Enjoy your daily Israel-bashing session. Ze German terrorist has the kool aid if any one is thirstey..

  • 1 vote
Reply#3 - Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:47 AM EDT
tyler

Hello my fellow Muslim and German terrorists. I am your enemy from Israel. Just wanted to say hi. Enjoy your daily Israel-bashing session. Ze German terrorist has the kool aid if any one is thirstey..

Don't call other users 'terrorists', I pissed on a thousand splendid suns. You're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor. And you might consider a name change - I can't imagine your current one will help with getting reported.

  • 3 votes
#3.1 - Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:26 PM EDT
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